From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 1 18:15:11 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 18:15:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5373 bytes Desc: not available URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Sun Jul 1 23:31:10 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 22:31:10 -0500 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >> balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >> superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it > works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be > unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip > unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR > illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you > get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes > the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, > most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are > not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >> lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >> normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >> the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week > when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in > the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that > matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I > was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post > office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than > the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty > guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time > frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the > parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal > service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether > regions. Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Mon Jul 2 13:35:36 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:35:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Fixing an old telephoto... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: A couple of years ago, I bought an old Pentax thread mount (sometimes called an M42 mount) 300mm f/4 lens. The Pentax Super Multi-Coated Takumars were excellent lenses, built like tanks, and can now be found relatively inexpensively. I was looking for a non-zoom lens in the 200-300mm range, around f/4. I found a guy in Vancouver selling a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar lens, and checked out its reputation...turned out to be a very good lens in its day. So, for just over $100, I bought it. When it arrived, I checked it out, and it was indeed quite sharp. Stars shrank as I turned the focus toward infinity, and stopped shrinking when I could go no further. It was definitely worth the money, and it filled a nice niche in my collection. Also, being at F/4, it is quite fast, and had an effective aperture of 75mm. Despite being happy with it, I had the distinct feeling that it could be better still. I made a Bahtinov mask for it, and sure enough, it wasn't quite perfect. I needed to get the lens a little closer to the CMOS chip in the Canon XSi. It was just a matter of being able to turn the focusing ring on the lens another 2 to 5 degrees or so. There were a couple of small metal tabs on the lens that looks as if they would stop the lens from getting closer to the adapter needed to fit the lens to the Canon body. Incidentally, this is one of the great things about Canon: you can get simple mechanical adapters that will allow the Canon camera to use a wide variety of lenses designed for other camera bodies. Bizarrely, though, this does include lenses from Canons older, non-EOS series of lenses. For those, you need a very special adapter that includes optical elements. Back to the story. Removing the metal tabs did not do anything. I put the project on to the back burner for a while as I played with my 6" Ritchey-Chretien. About a month ago, I picked up the lens again and used a 40mm eyepiece as a magnifying glass and examined it a bit more closely. It looked like there were a couple of small screws that adjusted a metal collar that might make just the difference I needed. After all, they have to make a lens and holder accurate enough to put the image plane to within 1/50th of a millimeter, and since they don't make lenses with focal lengths to that accuracy, there had to be some adjustment somewhere. Well, there was, just not at the place where I thought it was. Removing this collar allowed some other parts to move that had never moved before. Hoping that this was a good sign, I forged on. With the right types of twists, pulls, pushes and unscrewing, I got the lens out of the mechanism. Sure enough, at one point in the disassembly, I'd had to unscrew the lens via this incredibly fine thread...about four or five threads per millimeter, I'd estimate. Sure enough, there was a stop on this thread that prevented the lens from getting any closer to the CMOS chip. So, I moved the stop and put the lens back together. It took me two days. I gave up three times. But I hate being beaten by a mere mechanical device, particularly one that I've taken apart. One of the biggest difficulties was making sure I didn't cross-thread the adjustment. Astonishingly for me, I did not have any parts left over. Normally, I've very efficient at repairing stuff, using fewer parts when I'm finished than when it left the factory! The Bahtinov mask shows that I can now focus the lens beyond infinity, and sure enough, in Live View, I can watch the stars shrink and then grow slightly larger. A quick test showed that stars are now a touch tighter than they were before. So, I've modified an old set of Parallax tube rings to hold the lens firmly and attach it to a Vixen style dovetail. It now mounts on both my 12" SCT and my Meade motor modified EQ5 mount. Once I get my modified camera back, I'll give it a good try. It should be perfect for things like the North American nebula and some other star clouds in the Milky Way. Going to be fun! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Andy Blanchard Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:31 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 5 21:34:43 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:34:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm From gary at bendun.net Thu Jul 5 21:48:41 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:48:41 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly full moon: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 8_1470366923_n.jpg Gary Bennett -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 5 21:57:08 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:57:08 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> Message-ID: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Very nice... Ed On 2012-07-05, at 9:48 PM, Gary Bennett wrote: > You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a > modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly > full moon: > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 > 8_1470366923_n.jpg > > Gary Bennett > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me > the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that > the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with > all the details to try to get re-imbursed. > > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. > > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my > backyard observatory to play! > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results > in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at > blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing > line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a > 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV > end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at > 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque > at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I > recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and > beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon > >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the > unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip > filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, > but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others > filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras > unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work > unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible > light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible > range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I > suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp > images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks > are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >> out of the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it > shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was > travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, > I then had to go to the post office to get it. > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they > guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I > will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks > they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of > the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named > believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of > California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south > as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. > Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 5 22:41:42 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:41:42 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca><02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C418@gaea.aquilonia.orb> I've had to deal with this exact situation, and Canada Revenue is ok about it... but you just need some paperwork, and to fill out their form. A letter from the shipper, identifying their error on their paperwork, and detailing actual work done on a camera that was indeed already yours, is usually quite enough. I used a faxed letter for that last time, from a company in the US, that misunderstood "insured value" and "declared value for customs". ;-) (the latter always being the value that changed hands in the transaction) Andy : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to : > charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they : > didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to : > send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. : > : > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. : > : > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out : > to my backyard observatory to play! : > : > Roger : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > Hi, Mark... : > : > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras : > results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is : > veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a : > very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is : not as good. : > : > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in : > only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! : > : > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 : > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it : > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the : > UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. : > : > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough : > at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back : > to opaque at about 710nm. : > : > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar : > I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, : > and beyond, infinity. : > : > Roger : > : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye : > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: : > : >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is : >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to : >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom : >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but : >> Astrodon : > : >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for : >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less : >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. : > : > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to : > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is : > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out : > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works : normally. : > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while : > others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some : > cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. : > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD : > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty : > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get : > outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the : > scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most : > lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not : > affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. : > : >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras : >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, : >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of : >> miles out of the way. : > : > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and : > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when : > I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" : > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime : > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the : > package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. : > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while : > they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only : > guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, : > despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what : > do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there : > is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they : delay your shipment. : > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be : > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a : > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that : > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. : > Just what you wanted to hear... : > : > Clear skies! : > MK : > : > The Observatory by the Lake : > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 14:50:28 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:50:28 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> ... some slightly used technology. If you can use one, you can have it: 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. Let me know if interested ASAP. Colin From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 15:26:00 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Colin, I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. Thanks Ed On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Thu Jul 12 15:47:59 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <473D218A9A4044EE9AC4FF3E86E8A169@userb51be46d9b> Hi Colin; I would be interested in the 6" dob. May I make an offer on the phone - don't wish to start a bidding war ;o) (905) 383-7875 thanks, Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Haig" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe > something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for > photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will > fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 16:04:25 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:04:25 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >Colin, > >I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 >questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS >keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the >machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > >Thanks >Ed > > >On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > > > ... some slightly used technology. > > > > If you can use one, you can have it: > > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. > > > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great for photo editting. > > > > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > > Colin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 12 17:04:17 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:04:17 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: At 14:50 7/12/2012, you wrote: >3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. I would happily take one of these machines off of your hands, Colin >2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. >Great for photo editting. and one of these too. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:12:53 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:12:53 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be best suited for me... 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to those persons. Thanks Ed PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my experience. On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. > > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. > > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. > > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. > > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> Colin, >> >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. >> >> Thanks >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: >> >> > ... some slightly used technology. >> > >> > If you can use one, you can have it: >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. >> > >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. >> > >> > >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. >> > >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. >> > Colin >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > astronomers mailing list >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:24:49 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:24:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install 7, or go through Vista first. Andy : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be : best suited for me... : : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to : those persons. : : Thanks : Ed : : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my : experience. : : : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it : didnt need a reload. : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : >> Colin, : >> : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : >> : >> Thanks : >> Ed : >> : >> : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : >> : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : >> > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe : something for your kid. : >> > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great : for photo editting. : >> > : >> > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : >> > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : >> > Colin : >> > : >> > : >> > : >> > _______________________________________________ : >> > astronomers mailing list : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : >> : >> : >> _______________________________________________ : >> astronomers mailing list : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:29:43 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install > 7, or go through Vista first. > > Andy > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert > and I'm > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would > be > : best suited for me... > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software > that > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly > like a > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find > the OS > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > have to > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts > is to > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in > place > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much > cheaper > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine > so, > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be > using it for > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching > for > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. > In the end, > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > would > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > spend > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of > your 3 > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > them to > : those persons. > : > : Thanks > : Ed > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. > Well, I > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on > the Mac > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are > much > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my > : experience. > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, > pretty > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines > - don't > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > machines. > : > > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the > original > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, > so it > : didnt need a reload. > : > > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of > ram to > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 > cant run > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > could. > : > > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : >> Colin, > : >> > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > questions...1. I'm > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > Operating > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on > my > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : >> > : >> Thanks > : >> Ed > : >> > : >> > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : >> > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : >> > > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe > : something for your kid. > : >> > > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great > : for photo editting. > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : >> > > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : >> > Colin > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > : >> > : >> _______________________________________________ > : >> astronomers mailing list > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:55:50 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:55:50 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the install. : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. : : Ed : : : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: : : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) : > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh : > install 7, or go through Vista first. : > : > Andy : > : > : -----Original Message----- : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : > : : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the : > expert and I'm : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one : > would be : > : best suited for me... : > : : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do : > my : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of : > software that : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly : > like a : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find : > the OS : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I : > have to : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my : > thoughts is to : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in : > place : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much : > cheaper : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine : > so, : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only : > be using it for : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : > : : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been : > searching for : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. : > In the end, : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 : > would : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather : > spend : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : > : : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of : > your 3 : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give : > them to : > : those persons. : > : : > : Thanks : > : Ed : > : : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. : > Well, I : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on : > the Mac : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they : > are much : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in : > my : > : experience. : > : : > : : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, : > 3000, pretty : > : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three : > machines : > - don't : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 : > machines. : > : > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from : > the original : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, : > so it : > : didnt need a reload. : > : > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of : > ram to : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 : > cant run : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely : > could. : > : > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : > : >> Colin, : > : >> : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 : > questions...1. I'm : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the : > Operating : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on : > my : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : > : >> : > : >> Thanks : > : >> Ed : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : >> : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : > : >> > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or : > maybe : > : something for your kid. : > : >> > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. : > Great : > : for photo editting. : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat : > up. Will fit : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : > : >> > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : > : >> > Colin : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ : > : >> > astronomers mailing list : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> _______________________________________________ : > : >> astronomers mailing list : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > : > astronomers mailing list : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : : > : : > : _______________________________________________ : > : astronomers mailing list : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 18:27:37 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:27:37 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> I'll take a look around. Thanks again Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:55 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to > activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the > install. > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from > XP to > : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. > : > : Ed > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > : > : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > : > > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh > : > install 7, or go through Vista first. > : > > : > Andy > : > > : > : -----Original Message----- > : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the > : > expert and I'm > : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one > : > would be > : > : best suited for me... > : > : > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to > do > : > my > : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of > : > software that > : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs > exactly > : > like a > : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot > find > : > the OS > : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > : > have to > : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my > : > thoughts is to > : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, > in > : > place > : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is > much > : > cheaper > : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit > machine > : > so, > : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only > : > be using it for > : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been > : > searching for > : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no > avail. > : > In the end, > : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > : > would > : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > : > spend > : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one > of > : > your 3 > : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use > of > : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > : > them to > : > : those persons. > : > : > : > : Thanks > : > : Ed > : > : > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for > imaging. > : > Well, I > : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of > both > : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. > on > : > the Mac > : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they > : > are much > : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in > : > my > : > : experience. > : > : > : > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, > : > 3000, pretty > : > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > : > > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three > : > machines > : > - don't > : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > : > machines. > : > : > > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from > : > the original > : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely > used, > : > so it > : > : didnt need a reload. > : > : > > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig > of > : > ram to > : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the > 3000 > : > cant run > : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > : > could. > : > : > > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > : > > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : > : >> Colin, > : > : >> > : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > : > questions...1. I'm > : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > : > Operating > : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP > on > : > my > : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : > : >> > : > : >> Thanks > : > : >> Ed > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : >> > : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win > XP. > : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > : > maybe > : > : something for your kid. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT > monitors. > : > Great > : > : for photo editting. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit > beat > : > up. Will fit > : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : > : >> > Colin > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> _______________________________________________ > : > : >> astronomers mailing list > : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > _______________________________________________ > : > : > astronomers mailing list > : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : > : astronomers mailing list > : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 18:49:49 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 20:06:29 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:06:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4lq0f@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hi, Colin... You're right. It's priced to sell! The body alone goes for about $300, and I haven't used the lens in years. Somebody here is going to get a very good deal. I used the battery grip until I got the battery eliminator. Now I can run the camera off 120V and the grip is not needed. I haven't tested the grip to see if it will work with my newly modified T1i. If it does, and the camera doesn't sell here, then maybe I'll keep the grip and use it for concerts and non-Astro photography. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Colin Haig Sent: Thu 12/07/2012 7:21 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale That's a STEAL - way underpriced. At 06:49 PM 2012-07-12, you wrote: >I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dennis Ryan 905-815-1410 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Fri Jul 13 17:01:29 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:01:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Update Re: Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4phgg@fipsb01.cogeco.net> The Scope sold. One PC and Monitor have a new home. I have: 2 P4 PCs and 1 19" flat screen CRT monitor left. No charge/Make a donation ;-) Additional items now available (make an offer): WRT610N Linksys WiFi "N" router Soundblaster XFI - new, never used Dell 1280x1024 LCD flat panel display Starlight Xpress HX516 CCD Camera - asking $450 or a reasonable offer. 2 B&W bullet-style security cameras 0.1Lux. SWR & Power meter I may have other stuff coming up for grabs shortly as I prioritize. If you are looking for something astronomy, computer, or camera stuff, let me know. From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 14:33:09 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:33:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Sold. -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:50 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 21:46:05 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:46:05 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger From supergiant2003 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 15 00:08:36 2012 From: supergiant2003 at hotmail.com (supergiant2003 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:08:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hey gang... Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post when processed Gary Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers -----Original message----- From: Roger Hill To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 21:46:05 EDT Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 02:52:40 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:52:40 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: >Hey gang... >Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post >when processed >Gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glcolwell at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 07:47:55 2012 From: glcolwell at cogeco.ca (Gary Colwell) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:47:55 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <5002ADEB.30008@cogeco.ca> forks of the credit was partially cloudy.... > Colin Haig > July-15-12 2:52 AM > How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? > > At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > supergiant2003 at hotmail.com > July-15-12 12:08 AM > Hey gang... > Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post > when processed > Gary > > Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers > > > -----Original message----- > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > Roger Hill > July-14-12 9:46 PM > Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. > > http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: > > Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly > active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, > Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder > Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des > Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. > > > Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth > took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach > Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. > > Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the > 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the > disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of > states. > > Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible > Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. > > > > If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 > or higher. Getting out of town will also help. > > > Roger > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: compose-unknown-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 770 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: postbox-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1080 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bartman4 at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 15 11:00:46 2012 From: bartman4 at sympatico.ca (David A Barton) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:00:46 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Roger for letting us know. Nancy and Dana -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-14-12 9:46 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 13:36:35 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:36:35 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Message-ID: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). -David MacMillan Milton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lowville Park Aerial View.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 238255 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emizzi at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 17:21:14 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:21:14 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> Message-ID: <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> David, Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! Ed On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > > My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > > I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > > Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). > > -David MacMillan > Milton > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 17:26:59 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:26:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Sun Jul 15 19:14:33 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:14:33 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:16:10 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:16:10 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. Jeff Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > >> David, >> >> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >> >> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >> >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >> >>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>> >>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>> >>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>> >>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>> >>> -David MacMillan >>> Milton >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 21:19:09 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:19:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: Hey Jeff, Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. Ed On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials > > I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. > > Jeff > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > >> Are you offering to buy the permits? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >> >> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>> >>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>> >>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>> >>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>> >>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>> >>>> -David MacMillan >>>> Milton >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:20:52 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:20:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: <452916BC-0AE5-4291-BD5B-87E5D7A31690@yahoo.ca> Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 21:19, Ed Mizzi wrote: > Hey Jeff, > > Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > >> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials >> >> I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: >> >>> Are you offering to buy the permits? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >>> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >>> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >>> >>> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>>> >>>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>>> >>>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>>> >>>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>>> >>>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>>> >>>>> -David MacMillan >>>>> Milton >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> astronomers mailing list >>>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 22:44:00 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:44:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. a.. have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere b.. have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thirdalchemist at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 22:49:23 2012 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com (David Surette) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:49:23 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. > > - have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an > informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond > Hill, and it went nowhere > - have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, > perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) > – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) > > I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and > so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) > approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should > line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use > a site that would be convenient to many in our club. > > -David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Bennett > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto: > astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything > calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be > prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > > > David, > > > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for > us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do > Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of > Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and > would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit > org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might > be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take > on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is > because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the > headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look > through the telescope First"??!!! > > > > Ed > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > > > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a > special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > >> > >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it > out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely > surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a > covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > >> > >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is > allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left > on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > >> > >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll > call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after > 11pm). > >> > >> -David MacMillan > >> Milton > >> View.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >> astronomers mailing list > >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 15 23:54:44 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:54:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC><8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca><019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: In 2009, for the International Year of Astronomy, and for a couple of years afterwards, I ran a series of lectures/workshops at Discovery Landing in Spencer Smith Park for the City of Burlington. The Centre did not charge the City of Burlington for them. In exchange, however, we got the permits to hold Sidewalk Astronomy events at Spencer Smith Park. We also got a year's worth of meetings at Discovery Landing, too, thanks to Andy Blanchard. I think I ran 5 sets of 4 workshops over a three year span, with a lot of assistance from some great people in the Centre. When the City of Burlington decided that they were not going to offer the workshops anymore, they wanted to charge us for the permits. If I remember correctly, that would have been $150, and we still had to be done by 11pm. The Board tried to make Burlington see reason, but Spencers Restaurant next door took over managing Discovery Landing and no longer saw education as part of their mandate. Neither did Parks and Rec. So we stopped going. We're still looking for a place as good as Spencer Smith Park. I know Lowville fairly well...as a kid I used to try to dam the river. The problem with the place is that while it is fairly dark, the southern horizon is not good. Basically, you're sat in a valley carved through the escarpment. The ideal Sidewalk Astronomy place is a site where there is a lot of walk-by traffic, good horizons (we're only going to look at bright stuff like the Moon and planets, so dark skies don't matter), and adequate parking. Hutches, down by the Lake, would be a good place, for instance. There's a couple of RGB properties that could be good. I hope this helps, Roger From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of David Surette Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:49 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. * have one person (like me) try and establish a "beach-head" (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere * have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with "all comers are welcome" (i.e. "outreach") - sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I'm not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and "dirty our ticket", and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 - 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I'll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not sure if anyone down in > Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. > Cheers > Colin > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/**mailman/listinfo/astronomers_**hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 10:31:40 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:31:40 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, Message-ID: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. Scott Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! Dave On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig wrote: Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. Cheers Colin _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Mon Jul 16 11:07:06 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: > Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was > clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a > hint of aurora. > >Scott > > > > > >---------- >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 >From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com >To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... > >Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! > >Dave > >On M on, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig ><astronomer at cogeco.ca> wrote: >Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone >down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, >faint green. >Cheers >Colin > > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > >_______________________________________________ astronomers mailing >list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 14:21:54 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:21:54 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, , , <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hey Colin, I suspect I was too early. Found a pretty good spot a mile or two east of the Guelph Line about halfway between 401 and Highway 7. No house lights and not too much skyglow. Horizon could have been better. Would love to see your pic. sb Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca From: astronomer at cogeco.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. 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URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Thu Jul 26 22:50:49 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:50:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". See you soon Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031 ablanchard at cogeco.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Fri Jul 27 18:08:18 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:08:18 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hi Andy > > I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From joe at pipitone.ca Fri Jul 27 21:08:34 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:08:34 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: <3EA3ABF56FD24C7DADCF7B2BD40E0075@BrendaPC> I have no problem if someone else wants to do it. I thought this would be how I could best help at this time. I would be glad to pull out if others are interested. I am sure more experienced members would have more to offer in recommending Astro books. I could offer a newbie version for new members. Maybe a co reviewer by an experienced member and a new member would be a novelty. But, If they want to split up the work I would be glad to do the grunt work it that would help. I not really interested in the other ones as I am trying to get as far away from my former work life as possible and I would find it a return to work and stress , something which I have been away now for a number of years and loving stress free retirement.leaving me to follow my interests. Maybe something else will come up in the future that I can help the club out. It is great that people want to volunteer. Thanks See you at Starfest. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Blanchard To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. 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URL: From starchemist at cogeco.ca Fri Jul 27 22:24:19 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:24:19 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Stellarvue MG2 Mount Message-ID: <5D9792B03E1D454FA07057DC251AC8AD@MacMillanPC> Does anyone in the club have / use (or know someone who does) a Stellarvue MG2 mount? http://www.stellarvue.com/mg2.html Seems Stellarvue suspended sales of these mounts due to quality issues. However, they are once again taking orders, with deliveries anticipated to resume later this year. The advantage this mount has over my current M2 mount is that it is geared and has slo-mo controls + it can handle two OTA’s. I’ve picked up an inexpensive inclinometer (just need to figure best way to mount – something better than duct-tape) and would plan to strap a 360 degree circle around the mount..........then coupled with Stellarium on my laptop and it’s alt-az coordinates, I’d have a so-so object locater.......hopefully good enough for a wide-field eyepiece (e.g. Pan35 mm). Any feedback anyone has on the SV MG2 mount would be appreciated. -David MacMillan Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 11:35:52 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:35:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: A couple of things: 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Roger Sent from my iPhone. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 28 13:10:11 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: At 11:35 7/28/2012, you wrote: >Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Sorry about that Roger, but the first Thursday of the month is the sixth and Labour Day is the third. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 15:09:24 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:09:24 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] [ SpecialAnnouncement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Just trying to point out that some people have missed a meeting because they think of RASC as a non-summer activity, but think of Labour Day as the end of summer. It's been a concern enough that there have been times when the meeting date was changed to the Thursday after Labour Day. Sent from my iPhone. On 2012-07-28, at 1:17 PM, "Andrew Blanchard" wrote: > Thanks Roger, as always you are a wealth of club information and as a Gold Star recipient (past president) you are a great asset to our club. > > Roger are you suggesting that the 1st meeting cannot be held before Labour Day or are you asking a question? Also thanks for the library info, we are excited about the prospects of resurrecting this valuable resource. > > In response to my request for volunteers, I am also pleased to announce that Joe Pipitone has volunteered to be our new librarian. The membership Chairperson will be Gary Bennett who will be handing over his Web Master duties to Shawn Preston. Thanks for coming to the table and helping out gentlemen. Your time and efforts will be greatly appreciated by every member of the club, and I encourage our members to congratulate these fine individuals the next time you see them. > > As for the board members and being required to be a member for one year, we had been aware of this rule and the loop hole. > > Lastly we finally have our own calendar on our website that is being beta tested this week. Everyone will be receiving an email shortly from me with instructions that will allow you to use your iPhone and get instant updates and changes to your calendar through ical technology. We will also be able to update android and desktop calendars through Google calendars as well. I hope to be able to share the links later this week or next week. > > As always we are working to make your club experience just that much more enjoyable > > Andy Blanchard > > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-28-12 11:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update > > A couple of things: > > 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. > > 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. > > 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? > > Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. > > > Roger > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j_blane1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 19:22:55 2012 From: j_blane1 at yahoo.com (J Blane) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RASC Hamilton Observatory Message-ID: <1343604175.82524.YahooMailNeo@web120301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone  I'm heading up to the observatory, till about 12:00, anybody interested. Jason Blane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 29 22:24:16 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:24:16 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Starfest Invitation In-Reply-To: <003801cd6de2$0ffeb680$2ffc2380$@net> References: <003801cd6de2$0ffeb680$2ffc2380$@net> Message-ID: >Officially, Starfest opens on Thursday August 16, but many people >chose to arrive early. Several of us will be there on Monday August >13. Most years, the scramble for good camping spots begins on the >Wednesday. We will try and "rope-off" a spot for you, but that will >be difficult to do after the scramble begins. The earlier you can >get there the better! Pursuant to this, we have managed to get the campground to agree to turn off all their lights on the Sunday before Starfest, the 12th of August, for campers who want to arrive early and observe the Persieds. Clear skies! 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URL: From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Mon Jul 30 22:34:22 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:34:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Congratulations Joseph, you now have a great mount! I use an old heavy-duty bowling ball bag to carry my mount. It has handles and is a good fit - although a bit tricky for one person to get it in there! Sorry, no suggestions about the battery. Someone else will have an idea though, I'm sure. Clear skies! Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: joe at pipitone.ca To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Mon Jul 30 23:08:44 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:08:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Hi Joe, JMI makes cases for everything but Gary Bennett is your guy on this, he has his in a hard plastic case. As for the battery I have always tucked it behind a seat so it won't take off in a emergency braking situation.. Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-30, at 10:24 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? > > Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. > > Looking forward to your suggestions. > > Joseph Pipitone > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:51:54 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:51:54 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:56:22 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:56:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d801cd6f0b$2022d710$60688530$@net> Forgot the battery box: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Marine/BoatPartsAccessorie s/PRD~0790312P/Attwood+Series+Vented+Battery+Box.jsp?locale=en From: Gary Bennett [mailto:gary at bendun.net] Sent: July-31-12 6:52 AM To: 'astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca' Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Tue Jul 31 09:52:36 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:52:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Message-ID: <87B47E4A0720457599CD4EC4ABE47161@BrendaPC> Great! I just ordered it. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Bennett To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:51 AM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Tue Jul 31 21:47:22 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 21:47:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Fwd: [London RASC] August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, below you will find a copy of a free email I subscribe to each month with a link to the monthly sky targets. I enjoy this challenge each month and thought I would share it with you all. Many of you are off to in a few weeks and this many add to your enjoyment of the night sky. Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B Begin forwarded message: > From: John Kulczycki > Date: 31 July, 2012 8:29:55 PM EDT > To: ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca, RASCals Discussion List > Subject: [London RASC] August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges > Reply-To: London RASC Discussion > > For your observing enjoyment, here are the August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges: > http://suite101.com/article/pocket-sky-atlas-challenges-for-august-a410441 > > > John Kulczycki > _______________________________________________ > ldnrasc mailing list > ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca > http://www.rasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/ldnrasc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 1 18:15:11 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 18:15:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5373 bytes Desc: not available URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Sun Jul 1 23:31:10 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 22:31:10 -0500 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >> balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >> superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it > works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be > unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip > unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR > illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you > get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes > the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, > most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are > not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >> lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >> normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >> the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week > when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in > the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that > matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I > was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post > office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than > the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty > guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time > frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the > parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal > service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether > regions. Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Mon Jul 2 13:35:36 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:35:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Fixing an old telephoto... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: A couple of years ago, I bought an old Pentax thread mount (sometimes called an M42 mount) 300mm f/4 lens. The Pentax Super Multi-Coated Takumars were excellent lenses, built like tanks, and can now be found relatively inexpensively. I was looking for a non-zoom lens in the 200-300mm range, around f/4. I found a guy in Vancouver selling a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar lens, and checked out its reputation...turned out to be a very good lens in its day. So, for just over $100, I bought it. When it arrived, I checked it out, and it was indeed quite sharp. Stars shrank as I turned the focus toward infinity, and stopped shrinking when I could go no further. It was definitely worth the money, and it filled a nice niche in my collection. Also, being at F/4, it is quite fast, and had an effective aperture of 75mm. Despite being happy with it, I had the distinct feeling that it could be better still. I made a Bahtinov mask for it, and sure enough, it wasn't quite perfect. I needed to get the lens a little closer to the CMOS chip in the Canon XSi. It was just a matter of being able to turn the focusing ring on the lens another 2 to 5 degrees or so. There were a couple of small metal tabs on the lens that looks as if they would stop the lens from getting closer to the adapter needed to fit the lens to the Canon body. Incidentally, this is one of the great things about Canon: you can get simple mechanical adapters that will allow the Canon camera to use a wide variety of lenses designed for other camera bodies. Bizarrely, though, this does include lenses from Canons older, non-EOS series of lenses. For those, you need a very special adapter that includes optical elements. Back to the story. Removing the metal tabs did not do anything. I put the project on to the back burner for a while as I played with my 6" Ritchey-Chretien. About a month ago, I picked up the lens again and used a 40mm eyepiece as a magnifying glass and examined it a bit more closely. It looked like there were a couple of small screws that adjusted a metal collar that might make just the difference I needed. After all, they have to make a lens and holder accurate enough to put the image plane to within 1/50th of a millimeter, and since they don't make lenses with focal lengths to that accuracy, there had to be some adjustment somewhere. Well, there was, just not at the place where I thought it was. Removing this collar allowed some other parts to move that had never moved before. Hoping that this was a good sign, I forged on. With the right types of twists, pulls, pushes and unscrewing, I got the lens out of the mechanism. Sure enough, at one point in the disassembly, I'd had to unscrew the lens via this incredibly fine thread...about four or five threads per millimeter, I'd estimate. Sure enough, there was a stop on this thread that prevented the lens from getting any closer to the CMOS chip. So, I moved the stop and put the lens back together. It took me two days. I gave up three times. But I hate being beaten by a mere mechanical device, particularly one that I've taken apart. One of the biggest difficulties was making sure I didn't cross-thread the adjustment. Astonishingly for me, I did not have any parts left over. Normally, I've very efficient at repairing stuff, using fewer parts when I'm finished than when it left the factory! The Bahtinov mask shows that I can now focus the lens beyond infinity, and sure enough, in Live View, I can watch the stars shrink and then grow slightly larger. A quick test showed that stars are now a touch tighter than they were before. So, I've modified an old set of Parallax tube rings to hold the lens firmly and attach it to a Vixen style dovetail. It now mounts on both my 12" SCT and my Meade motor modified EQ5 mount. Once I get my modified camera back, I'll give it a good try. It should be perfect for things like the North American nebula and some other star clouds in the Milky Way. Going to be fun! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Andy Blanchard Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:31 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 5 21:34:43 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:34:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm From gary at bendun.net Thu Jul 5 21:48:41 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:48:41 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly full moon: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 8_1470366923_n.jpg Gary Bennett -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 5 21:57:08 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:57:08 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> Message-ID: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Very nice... Ed On 2012-07-05, at 9:48 PM, Gary Bennett wrote: > You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a > modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly > full moon: > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 > 8_1470366923_n.jpg > > Gary Bennett > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me > the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that > the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with > all the details to try to get re-imbursed. > > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. > > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my > backyard observatory to play! > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results > in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at > blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing > line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a > 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV > end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at > 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque > at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I > recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and > beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon > >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the > unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip > filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, > but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others > filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras > unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work > unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible > light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible > range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I > suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp > images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks > are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >> out of the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it > shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was > travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, > I then had to go to the post office to get it. > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they > guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I > will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks > they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of > the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named > believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of > California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south > as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. > Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 5 22:41:42 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:41:42 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca><02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C418@gaea.aquilonia.orb> I've had to deal with this exact situation, and Canada Revenue is ok about it... but you just need some paperwork, and to fill out their form. A letter from the shipper, identifying their error on their paperwork, and detailing actual work done on a camera that was indeed already yours, is usually quite enough. I used a faxed letter for that last time, from a company in the US, that misunderstood "insured value" and "declared value for customs". ;-) (the latter always being the value that changed hands in the transaction) Andy : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to : > charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they : > didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to : > send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. : > : > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. : > : > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out : > to my backyard observatory to play! : > : > Roger : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > Hi, Mark... : > : > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras : > results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is : > veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a : > very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is : not as good. : > : > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in : > only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! : > : > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 : > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it : > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the : > UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. : > : > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough : > at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back : > to opaque at about 710nm. : > : > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar : > I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, : > and beyond, infinity. : > : > Roger : > : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye : > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: : > : >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is : >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to : >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom : >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but : >> Astrodon : > : >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for : >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less : >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. : > : > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to : > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is : > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out : > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works : normally. : > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while : > others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some : > cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. : > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD : > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty : > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get : > outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the : > scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most : > lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not : > affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. : > : >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras : >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, : >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of : >> miles out of the way. : > : > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and : > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when : > I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" : > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime : > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the : > package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. : > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while : > they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only : > guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, : > despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what : > do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there : > is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they : delay your shipment. : > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be : > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a : > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that : > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. : > Just what you wanted to hear... : > : > Clear skies! : > MK : > : > The Observatory by the Lake : > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 14:50:28 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:50:28 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> ... some slightly used technology. If you can use one, you can have it: 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. Let me know if interested ASAP. Colin From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 15:26:00 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Colin, I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. Thanks Ed On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Thu Jul 12 15:47:59 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <473D218A9A4044EE9AC4FF3E86E8A169@userb51be46d9b> Hi Colin; I would be interested in the 6" dob. May I make an offer on the phone - don't wish to start a bidding war ;o) (905) 383-7875 thanks, Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Haig" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe > something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for > photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will > fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 16:04:25 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:04:25 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >Colin, > >I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 >questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS >keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the >machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > >Thanks >Ed > > >On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > > > ... some slightly used technology. > > > > If you can use one, you can have it: > > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. > > > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great for photo editting. > > > > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > > Colin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 12 17:04:17 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:04:17 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: At 14:50 7/12/2012, you wrote: >3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. I would happily take one of these machines off of your hands, Colin >2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. >Great for photo editting. and one of these too. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:12:53 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:12:53 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be best suited for me... 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to those persons. Thanks Ed PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my experience. On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. > > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. > > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. > > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. > > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> Colin, >> >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. >> >> Thanks >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: >> >> > ... some slightly used technology. >> > >> > If you can use one, you can have it: >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. >> > >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. >> > >> > >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. >> > >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. >> > Colin >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > astronomers mailing list >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:24:49 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:24:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install 7, or go through Vista first. Andy : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be : best suited for me... : : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to : those persons. : : Thanks : Ed : : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my : experience. : : : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it : didnt need a reload. : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : >> Colin, : >> : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : >> : >> Thanks : >> Ed : >> : >> : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : >> : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : >> > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe : something for your kid. : >> > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great : for photo editting. : >> > : >> > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : >> > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : >> > Colin : >> > : >> > : >> > : >> > _______________________________________________ : >> > astronomers mailing list : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : >> : >> : >> _______________________________________________ : >> astronomers mailing list : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:29:43 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install > 7, or go through Vista first. > > Andy > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert > and I'm > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would > be > : best suited for me... > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software > that > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly > like a > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find > the OS > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > have to > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts > is to > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in > place > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much > cheaper > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine > so, > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be > using it for > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching > for > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. > In the end, > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > would > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > spend > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of > your 3 > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > them to > : those persons. > : > : Thanks > : Ed > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. > Well, I > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on > the Mac > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are > much > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my > : experience. > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, > pretty > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines > - don't > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > machines. > : > > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the > original > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, > so it > : didnt need a reload. > : > > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of > ram to > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 > cant run > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > could. > : > > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : >> Colin, > : >> > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > questions...1. I'm > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > Operating > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on > my > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : >> > : >> Thanks > : >> Ed > : >> > : >> > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : >> > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : >> > > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe > : something for your kid. > : >> > > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great > : for photo editting. > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : >> > > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : >> > Colin > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > : >> > : >> _______________________________________________ > : >> astronomers mailing list > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:55:50 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:55:50 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the install. : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. : : Ed : : : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: : : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) : > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh : > install 7, or go through Vista first. : > : > Andy : > : > : -----Original Message----- : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : > : : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the : > expert and I'm : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one : > would be : > : best suited for me... : > : : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do : > my : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of : > software that : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly : > like a : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find : > the OS : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I : > have to : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my : > thoughts is to : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in : > place : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much : > cheaper : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine : > so, : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only : > be using it for : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : > : : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been : > searching for : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. : > In the end, : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 : > would : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather : > spend : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : > : : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of : > your 3 : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give : > them to : > : those persons. : > : : > : Thanks : > : Ed : > : : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. : > Well, I : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on : > the Mac : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they : > are much : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in : > my : > : experience. : > : : > : : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, : > 3000, pretty : > : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three : > machines : > - don't : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 : > machines. : > : > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from : > the original : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, : > so it : > : didnt need a reload. : > : > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of : > ram to : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 : > cant run : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely : > could. : > : > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : > : >> Colin, : > : >> : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 : > questions...1. I'm : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the : > Operating : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on : > my : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : > : >> : > : >> Thanks : > : >> Ed : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : >> : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : > : >> > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or : > maybe : > : something for your kid. : > : >> > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. : > Great : > : for photo editting. : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat : > up. Will fit : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : > : >> > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : > : >> > Colin : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ : > : >> > astronomers mailing list : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> _______________________________________________ : > : >> astronomers mailing list : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > : > astronomers mailing list : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : : > : : > : _______________________________________________ : > : astronomers mailing list : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 18:27:37 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:27:37 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> I'll take a look around. Thanks again Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:55 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to > activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the > install. > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from > XP to > : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. > : > : Ed > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > : > : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > : > > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh > : > install 7, or go through Vista first. > : > > : > Andy > : > > : > : -----Original Message----- > : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the > : > expert and I'm > : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one > : > would be > : > : best suited for me... > : > : > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to > do > : > my > : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of > : > software that > : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs > exactly > : > like a > : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot > find > : > the OS > : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > : > have to > : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my > : > thoughts is to > : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, > in > : > place > : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is > much > : > cheaper > : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit > machine > : > so, > : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only > : > be using it for > : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been > : > searching for > : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no > avail. > : > In the end, > : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > : > would > : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > : > spend > : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one > of > : > your 3 > : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use > of > : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > : > them to > : > : those persons. > : > : > : > : Thanks > : > : Ed > : > : > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for > imaging. > : > Well, I > : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of > both > : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. > on > : > the Mac > : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they > : > are much > : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in > : > my > : > : experience. > : > : > : > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, > : > 3000, pretty > : > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > : > > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three > : > machines > : > - don't > : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > : > machines. > : > : > > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from > : > the original > : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely > used, > : > so it > : > : didnt need a reload. > : > : > > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig > of > : > ram to > : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the > 3000 > : > cant run > : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > : > could. > : > : > > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > : > > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : > : >> Colin, > : > : >> > : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > : > questions...1. I'm > : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > : > Operating > : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP > on > : > my > : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : > : >> > : > : >> Thanks > : > : >> Ed > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : >> > : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win > XP. > : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > : > maybe > : > : something for your kid. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT > monitors. > : > Great > : > : for photo editting. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit > beat > : > up. Will fit > : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : > : >> > Colin > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> _______________________________________________ > : > : >> astronomers mailing list > : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > _______________________________________________ > : > : > astronomers mailing list > : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : > : astronomers mailing list > : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 18:49:49 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2803 bytes Desc: not available URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 19:21:59 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:21:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4lq0f@fipsb01.cogeco.net> That's a STEAL - way underpriced. At 06:49 PM 2012-07-12, you wrote: >I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 20:06:29 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:06:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4lq0f@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hi, Colin... You're right. It's priced to sell! The body alone goes for about $300, and I haven't used the lens in years. Somebody here is going to get a very good deal. I used the battery grip until I got the battery eliminator. Now I can run the camera off 120V and the grip is not needed. I haven't tested the grip to see if it will work with my newly modified T1i. If it does, and the camera doesn't sell here, then maybe I'll keep the grip and use it for concerts and non-Astro photography. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Colin Haig Sent: Thu 12/07/2012 7:21 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale That's a STEAL - way underpriced. At 06:49 PM 2012-07-12, you wrote: >I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dennis Ryan 905-815-1410 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Fri Jul 13 17:01:29 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:01:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Update Re: Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4phgg@fipsb01.cogeco.net> The Scope sold. One PC and Monitor have a new home. I have: 2 P4 PCs and 1 19" flat screen CRT monitor left. No charge/Make a donation ;-) Additional items now available (make an offer): WRT610N Linksys WiFi "N" router Soundblaster XFI - new, never used Dell 1280x1024 LCD flat panel display Starlight Xpress HX516 CCD Camera - asking $450 or a reasonable offer. 2 B&W bullet-style security cameras 0.1Lux. SWR & Power meter I may have other stuff coming up for grabs shortly as I prioritize. If you are looking for something astronomy, computer, or camera stuff, let me know. From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 14:33:09 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:33:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Sold. -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:50 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 21:46:05 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:46:05 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger From supergiant2003 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 15 00:08:36 2012 From: supergiant2003 at hotmail.com (supergiant2003 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:08:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hey gang... Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post when processed Gary Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers -----Original message----- From: Roger Hill To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 21:46:05 EDT Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 02:52:40 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:52:40 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: >Hey gang... >Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post >when processed >Gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glcolwell at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 07:47:55 2012 From: glcolwell at cogeco.ca (Gary Colwell) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:47:55 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <5002ADEB.30008@cogeco.ca> forks of the credit was partially cloudy.... > Colin Haig > July-15-12 2:52 AM > How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? > > At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > supergiant2003 at hotmail.com > July-15-12 12:08 AM > Hey gang... > Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post > when processed > Gary > > Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers > > > -----Original message----- > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > Roger Hill > July-14-12 9:46 PM > Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. > > http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: > > Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly > active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, > Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder > Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des > Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. > > > Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth > took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach > Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. > > Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the > 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the > disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of > states. > > Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible > Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. > > > > If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 > or higher. Getting out of town will also help. > > > Roger > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: compose-unknown-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 770 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: postbox-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1080 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bartman4 at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 15 11:00:46 2012 From: bartman4 at sympatico.ca (David A Barton) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:00:46 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Roger for letting us know. Nancy and Dana -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-14-12 9:46 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 13:36:35 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:36:35 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Message-ID: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). -David MacMillan Milton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! Ed On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > > My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > > I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > > Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). > > -David MacMillan > Milton > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 17:26:59 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:26:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Sun Jul 15 19:14:33 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:14:33 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:16:10 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:16:10 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. Jeff Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > >> David, >> >> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >> >> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >> >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >> >>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>> >>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>> >>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>> >>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>> >>> -David MacMillan >>> Milton >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 21:19:09 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:19:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: Hey Jeff, Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. Ed On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials > > I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. > > Jeff > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > >> Are you offering to buy the permits? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >> >> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>> >>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>> >>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>> >>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>> >>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>> >>>> -David MacMillan >>>> Milton >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:20:52 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:20:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: <452916BC-0AE5-4291-BD5B-87E5D7A31690@yahoo.ca> Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 21:19, Ed Mizzi wrote: > Hey Jeff, > > Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > >> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials >> >> I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: >> >>> Are you offering to buy the permits? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >>> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >>> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >>> >>> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>>> >>>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>>> >>>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>>> >>>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>>> >>>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>>> >>>>> -David MacMillan >>>>> Milton >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> astronomers mailing list >>>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 22:44:00 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:44:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. a.. have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere b.. have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thirdalchemist at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 22:49:23 2012 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com (David Surette) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:49:23 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. > > - have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an > informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond > Hill, and it went nowhere > - have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, > perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) > – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) > > I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and > so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) > approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should > line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use > a site that would be convenient to many in our club. > > -David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Bennett > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto: > astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything > calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be > prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > > > David, > > > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for > us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do > Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of > Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and > would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit > org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might > be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take > on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is > because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the > headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look > through the telescope First"??!!! > > > > Ed > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > > > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a > special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > >> > >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it > out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely > surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a > covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > >> > >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is > allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left > on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > >> > >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll > call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after > 11pm). > >> > >> -David MacMillan > >> Milton > >> View.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >> astronomers mailing list > >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 15 23:54:44 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:54:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC><8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca><019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: In 2009, for the International Year of Astronomy, and for a couple of years afterwards, I ran a series of lectures/workshops at Discovery Landing in Spencer Smith Park for the City of Burlington. The Centre did not charge the City of Burlington for them. In exchange, however, we got the permits to hold Sidewalk Astronomy events at Spencer Smith Park. We also got a year's worth of meetings at Discovery Landing, too, thanks to Andy Blanchard. I think I ran 5 sets of 4 workshops over a three year span, with a lot of assistance from some great people in the Centre. When the City of Burlington decided that they were not going to offer the workshops anymore, they wanted to charge us for the permits. If I remember correctly, that would have been $150, and we still had to be done by 11pm. The Board tried to make Burlington see reason, but Spencers Restaurant next door took over managing Discovery Landing and no longer saw education as part of their mandate. Neither did Parks and Rec. So we stopped going. We're still looking for a place as good as Spencer Smith Park. I know Lowville fairly well...as a kid I used to try to dam the river. The problem with the place is that while it is fairly dark, the southern horizon is not good. Basically, you're sat in a valley carved through the escarpment. The ideal Sidewalk Astronomy place is a site where there is a lot of walk-by traffic, good horizons (we're only going to look at bright stuff like the Moon and planets, so dark skies don't matter), and adequate parking. Hutches, down by the Lake, would be a good place, for instance. There's a couple of RGB properties that could be good. I hope this helps, Roger From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of David Surette Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:49 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. * have one person (like me) try and establish a "beach-head" (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere * have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with "all comers are welcome" (i.e. "outreach") - sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I'm not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and "dirty our ticket", and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 - 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I'll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not sure if anyone down in > Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. > Cheers > Colin > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/**mailman/listinfo/astronomers_**hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 10:31:40 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:31:40 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, Message-ID: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. Scott Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! Dave On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig wrote: Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. Cheers Colin _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Mon Jul 16 11:07:06 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: > Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was > clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a > hint of aurora. > >Scott > > > > > >---------- >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 >From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com >To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... > >Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! > >Dave > >On M on, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig ><astronomer at cogeco.ca> wrote: >Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone >down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, >faint green. >Cheers >Colin > > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > >_______________________________________________ astronomers mailing >list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 14:21:54 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:21:54 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, , , <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hey Colin, I suspect I was too early. Found a pretty good spot a mile or two east of the Guelph Line about halfway between 401 and Highway 7. No house lights and not too much skyglow. Horizon could have been better. Would love to see your pic. sb Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca From: astronomer at cogeco.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. Scott Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! Dave On M on, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig wrote: Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. 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URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Thu Jul 26 22:50:49 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:50:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". See you soon Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031 ablanchard at cogeco.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Fri Jul 27 18:08:18 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:08:18 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hi Andy > > I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From joe at pipitone.ca Fri Jul 27 21:08:34 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:08:34 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: <3EA3ABF56FD24C7DADCF7B2BD40E0075@BrendaPC> I have no problem if someone else wants to do it. I thought this would be how I could best help at this time. I would be glad to pull out if others are interested. I am sure more experienced members would have more to offer in recommending Astro books. I could offer a newbie version for new members. Maybe a co reviewer by an experienced member and a new member would be a novelty. But, If they want to split up the work I would be glad to do the grunt work it that would help. I not really interested in the other ones as I am trying to get as far away from my former work life as possible and I would find it a return to work and stress , something which I have been away now for a number of years and loving stress free retirement.leaving me to follow my interests. Maybe something else will come up in the future that I can help the club out. It is great that people want to volunteer. Thanks See you at Starfest. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Blanchard To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. 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I’ve picked up an inexpensive inclinometer (just need to figure best way to mount – something better than duct-tape) and would plan to strap a 360 degree circle around the mount..........then coupled with Stellarium on my laptop and it’s alt-az coordinates, I’d have a so-so object locater.......hopefully good enough for a wide-field eyepiece (e.g. Pan35 mm). Any feedback anyone has on the SV MG2 mount would be appreciated. -David MacMillan Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 11:35:52 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:35:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: A couple of things: 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Roger Sent from my iPhone. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 28 13:10:11 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: At 11:35 7/28/2012, you wrote: >Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Sorry about that Roger, but the first Thursday of the month is the sixth and Labour Day is the third. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 15:09:24 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:09:24 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] [ SpecialAnnouncement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Just trying to point out that some people have missed a meeting because they think of RASC as a non-summer activity, but think of Labour Day as the end of summer. It's been a concern enough that there have been times when the meeting date was changed to the Thursday after Labour Day. Sent from my iPhone. On 2012-07-28, at 1:17 PM, "Andrew Blanchard" wrote: > Thanks Roger, as always you are a wealth of club information and as a Gold Star recipient (past president) you are a great asset to our club. > > Roger are you suggesting that the 1st meeting cannot be held before Labour Day or are you asking a question? Also thanks for the library info, we are excited about the prospects of resurrecting this valuable resource. > > In response to my request for volunteers, I am also pleased to announce that Joe Pipitone has volunteered to be our new librarian. The membership Chairperson will be Gary Bennett who will be handing over his Web Master duties to Shawn Preston. Thanks for coming to the table and helping out gentlemen. Your time and efforts will be greatly appreciated by every member of the club, and I encourage our members to congratulate these fine individuals the next time you see them. > > As for the board members and being required to be a member for one year, we had been aware of this rule and the loop hole. > > Lastly we finally have our own calendar on our website that is being beta tested this week. Everyone will be receiving an email shortly from me with instructions that will allow you to use your iPhone and get instant updates and changes to your calendar through ical technology. We will also be able to update android and desktop calendars through Google calendars as well. I hope to be able to share the links later this week or next week. > > As always we are working to make your club experience just that much more enjoyable > > Andy Blanchard > > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-28-12 11:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update > > A couple of things: > > 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. > > 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. > > 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? > > Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. > > > Roger > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j_blane1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 19:22:55 2012 From: j_blane1 at yahoo.com (J Blane) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RASC Hamilton Observatory Message-ID: <1343604175.82524.YahooMailNeo@web120301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone  I'm heading up to the observatory, till about 12:00, anybody interested. Jason Blane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 29 22:24:16 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:24:16 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Starfest Invitation In-Reply-To: <003801cd6de2$0ffeb680$2ffc2380$@net> References: <003801cd6de2$0ffeb680$2ffc2380$@net> Message-ID: >Officially, Starfest opens on Thursday August 16, but many people >chose to arrive early. Several of us will be there on Monday August >13. Most years, the scramble for good camping spots begins on the >Wednesday. We will try and "rope-off" a spot for you, but that will >be difficult to do after the scramble begins. The earlier you can >get there the better! Pursuant to this, we have managed to get the campground to agree to turn off all their lights on the Sunday before Starfest, the 12th of August, for campers who want to arrive early and observe the Persieds. Clear skies! 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URL: From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Mon Jul 30 22:34:22 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:34:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Congratulations Joseph, you now have a great mount! I use an old heavy-duty bowling ball bag to carry my mount. It has handles and is a good fit - although a bit tricky for one person to get it in there! Sorry, no suggestions about the battery. Someone else will have an idea though, I'm sure. Clear skies! Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: joe at pipitone.ca To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Mon Jul 30 23:08:44 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:08:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Hi Joe, JMI makes cases for everything but Gary Bennett is your guy on this, he has his in a hard plastic case. As for the battery I have always tucked it behind a seat so it won't take off in a emergency braking situation.. Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-30, at 10:24 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? > > Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. > > Looking forward to your suggestions. > > Joseph Pipitone > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:51:54 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:51:54 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:56:22 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:56:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d801cd6f0b$2022d710$60688530$@net> Forgot the battery box: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Marine/BoatPartsAccessorie s/PRD~0790312P/Attwood+Series+Vented+Battery+Box.jsp?locale=en From: Gary Bennett [mailto:gary at bendun.net] Sent: July-31-12 6:52 AM To: 'astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca' Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Tue Jul 31 09:52:36 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:52:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Message-ID: <87B47E4A0720457599CD4EC4ABE47161@BrendaPC> Great! I just ordered it. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Bennett To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:51 AM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. 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Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B Begin forwarded message: > From: John Kulczycki > Date: 31 July, 2012 8:29:55 PM EDT > To: ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca, RASCals Discussion List > Subject: [London RASC] August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges > Reply-To: London RASC Discussion > > For your observing enjoyment, here are the August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges: > http://suite101.com/article/pocket-sky-atlas-challenges-for-august-a410441 > > > John Kulczycki > _______________________________________________ > ldnrasc mailing list > ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca > http://www.rasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/ldnrasc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 1 18:15:11 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 18:15:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 5373 bytes Desc: not available URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Sun Jul 1 23:31:10 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 22:31:10 -0500 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom white >> balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon has a >> superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it > works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be > unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip > unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR > illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you > get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes > the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, > most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are > not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras being >> lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, it's >> normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles out of >> the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week > when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in > the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that > matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I > was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post > office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than > the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty > guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time > frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the > parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal > service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether > regions. Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Mon Jul 2 13:35:36 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:35:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Fixing an old telephoto... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: A couple of years ago, I bought an old Pentax thread mount (sometimes called an M42 mount) 300mm f/4 lens. The Pentax Super Multi-Coated Takumars were excellent lenses, built like tanks, and can now be found relatively inexpensively. I was looking for a non-zoom lens in the 200-300mm range, around f/4. I found a guy in Vancouver selling a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar lens, and checked out its reputation...turned out to be a very good lens in its day. So, for just over $100, I bought it. When it arrived, I checked it out, and it was indeed quite sharp. Stars shrank as I turned the focus toward infinity, and stopped shrinking when I could go no further. It was definitely worth the money, and it filled a nice niche in my collection. Also, being at F/4, it is quite fast, and had an effective aperture of 75mm. Despite being happy with it, I had the distinct feeling that it could be better still. I made a Bahtinov mask for it, and sure enough, it wasn't quite perfect. I needed to get the lens a little closer to the CMOS chip in the Canon XSi. It was just a matter of being able to turn the focusing ring on the lens another 2 to 5 degrees or so. There were a couple of small metal tabs on the lens that looks as if they would stop the lens from getting closer to the adapter needed to fit the lens to the Canon body. Incidentally, this is one of the great things about Canon: you can get simple mechanical adapters that will allow the Canon camera to use a wide variety of lenses designed for other camera bodies. Bizarrely, though, this does include lenses from Canons older, non-EOS series of lenses. For those, you need a very special adapter that includes optical elements. Back to the story. Removing the metal tabs did not do anything. I put the project on to the back burner for a while as I played with my 6" Ritchey-Chretien. About a month ago, I picked up the lens again and used a 40mm eyepiece as a magnifying glass and examined it a bit more closely. It looked like there were a couple of small screws that adjusted a metal collar that might make just the difference I needed. After all, they have to make a lens and holder accurate enough to put the image plane to within 1/50th of a millimeter, and since they don't make lenses with focal lengths to that accuracy, there had to be some adjustment somewhere. Well, there was, just not at the place where I thought it was. Removing this collar allowed some other parts to move that had never moved before. Hoping that this was a good sign, I forged on. With the right types of twists, pulls, pushes and unscrewing, I got the lens out of the mechanism. Sure enough, at one point in the disassembly, I'd had to unscrew the lens via this incredibly fine thread...about four or five threads per millimeter, I'd estimate. Sure enough, there was a stop on this thread that prevented the lens from getting any closer to the CMOS chip. So, I moved the stop and put the lens back together. It took me two days. I gave up three times. But I hate being beaten by a mere mechanical device, particularly one that I've taken apart. One of the biggest difficulties was making sure I didn't cross-thread the adjustment. Astonishingly for me, I did not have any parts left over. Normally, I've very efficient at repairing stuff, using fewer parts when I'm finished than when it left the factory! The Bahtinov mask shows that I can now focus the lens beyond infinity, and sure enough, in Live View, I can watch the stars shrink and then grow slightly larger. A quick test showed that stars are now a touch tighter than they were before. So, I've modified an old set of Parallax tube rings to hold the lens firmly and attach it to a Vixen style dovetail. It now mounts on both my 12" SCT and my Meade motor modified EQ5 mount. Once I get my modified camera back, I'll give it a good try. It should be perfect for things like the North American nebula and some other star clouds in the Milky Way. Going to be fun! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Andy Blanchard Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:31 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Roger please tell us more about you lens modification? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-01, at 5:15 PM, "Roger Hill" wrote: > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. > > Roger From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 5 21:34:43 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:34:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm From gary at bendun.net Thu Jul 5 21:48:41 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:48:41 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly full moon: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 8_1470366923_n.jpg Gary Bennett -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my backyard observatory to play! Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... Hi, Mark... The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque at about 710nm. I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and beyond, infinity. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: >He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon >has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. >After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >out of the way. You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they delay your shipment. Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. Just what you wanted to hear... Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 5 21:57:08 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 21:57:08 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net> <6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca> <02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> Message-ID: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Very nice... Ed On 2012-07-05, at 9:48 PM, Gary Bennett wrote: > You'll be glad to know that narrow band filters work rather well with a > modified camera. I shot this with a Ha filter on Saturday under a nearly > full moon: > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/488078_1015125020813990 > 8_1470366923_n.jpg > > Gary Bennett > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to charge me > the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they didn't know that > the camera was mine in the first place! I have to send them a letter with > all the details to try to get re-imbursed. > > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. > > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out to my > backyard observatory to play! > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > Hi, Mark... > > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras results > in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is veryu good at > blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a very sharp dividing > line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is not as good. > > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in only a > 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! > > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the UV > end, but also at the IR end, as well. > > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough at > 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back to opaque > at about 710nm. > > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar I > recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, and > beyond, infinity. > > Roger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... > > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: > >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but Astrodon > >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. > > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to the > unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is not chip > filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out completely due to IR, > but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works normally. > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while others > filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some cameras > unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD work > unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty focusing visible > light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get outside of the visible > range, especially at the red end and makes the scope very hard to focus. I > suspect that unless IR is filtered, most lens systems will not give sharp > images. Of course, mirrors are not affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks > are. > >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of miles >> out of the way. > > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and had it > shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when I was > travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the package, > I then had to go to the post office to get it. > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while they > guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only guarantee that I > will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, despite the huge extra bucks > they charge. I got the parcel, so what do they care? The one advantage of > the postal service is that there is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the > item at the border while they delay your shipment. > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be named > believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a myth for all of > California and your package is in Miami because that is about as far south > as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. > Just what you wanted to hear... > > Clear skies! > MK > > The Observatory by the Lake > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 5 22:41:42 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 22:41:42 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... In-Reply-To: <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> References: <024c01cd4f08$910b6c30$b3224490$@net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C39E@gaea.aquilonia.orb><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD222972D1@gaea.aquilonia.orb><62af58$9tc8cb@fipsb03.cogeco.net><6BFABC10-D088-4ECB-AC0E-0CDE774DDB0A@cogeco.ca><02b501cd5b19$792377d0$6b6a6770$@net> <269AE482-BA1A-4D09-B11C-CE362042D64A@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C418@gaea.aquilonia.orb> I've had to deal with this exact situation, and Canada Revenue is ok about it... but you just need some paperwork, and to fill out their form. A letter from the shipper, identifying their error on their paperwork, and detailing actual work done on a camera that was indeed already yours, is usually quite enough. I used a faxed letter for that last time, from a company in the US, that misunderstood "insured value" and "declared value for customs". ;-) (the latter always being the value that changed hands in the transaction) Andy : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: July-05-12 9:35 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > The camera arrived back home today. Canada Customs have tried to : > charge me the HST on the insured value of the camera. I guess they : > didn't know that the camera was mine in the first place! I have to : > send them a letter with all the details to try to get re-imbursed. : > : > Oh joy...dealing with a bureaucracy to try to get my own money back. : > : > It's clear tonight, so, despite the just past Full Moon, I'm off out : > to my backyard observatory to play! : > : > Roger : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca : > [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill : > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 6:15 PM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > Hi, Mark... : > : > The factory default filter that Canon uses for it's regular cameras : > results in a spectral response that is an odd shape. The filter is : > veryu good at blocking out UV, but letting blue through. It has a : > very sharp dividing line betrween them. The other end of the spectrum is : not as good. : > : > At the red end, the response gradually tails off, which results in : > only a 20% respose at the Hydrogen Alpha line. This is not good! : > : > The Astrodon filter is a visible light only filter (until about 1200 : > nanometers, but by then, the CMOS chip is extremely insensitive, so it : > dowsn't matter). This filter has a very sharp cut off not only at the : > UV end, but also at the IR end, as well. : > : > At 390nm, the filter is essentially opaque, rising to 99% passthrough : > at 400nm. It remains at 98-99% transparency until 700nm and is back : > to opaque at about 710nm. : > : > I certainly hope it works with lenses...I have a 300mm f/4 SMC Takumar : > I recently took apart and put back together to allow it to focus at, : > and beyond, infinity. : > : > Roger : > : > : > -----Original Message----- : > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Mark Kaye : > Sent: Fri 29/06/2012 9:36 AM : > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Getting a DSLR modified... : > : > At 22:35 6/28/2012, you wrote: : > : >> He also offers a choice of two different replacement filters. One is : >> made by Baader and the other by Astrodon. These filters allow you to : >> use the camera for normal daytime use, as long as you use a custom : >> white balance. The Astrodon filter is $30 more expensive, but : >> Astrodon : > : >> has a superb reputation for producing the highest quality filters for : >> astronomical use. So, despite my predilection for choosing the less : >> expensive items, I went with the Astrodon filter. : > : > I own a Baader IR/UV blocking filter. It is completely clear to : > the unaided eye, but I know it blocks IR as I have a web cam that is : > not chip filtered for IR and with some lenses, it washes out : > completely due to IR, but when I put the Baader filter in front, it works : normally. : > Some webcams filter the chip and let the lens be unfiltered, while : > others filter the lens and leave the chip unfiltered. That makes some : > cameras unsuitable for using with IR illumination, if the chip is filtered. : > Does the Astrodon filter IR? I cannot use my refractor for CCD : > work unless I filter out IR and UV. While the scope is beauty : > focusing visible light, it quickly goes into out of focus once you get : > outside of the visible range, especially at the red end and makes the : > scope very hard to focus. I suspect that unless IR is filtered, most : > lens systems will not give sharp images. Of course, mirrors are not : > affected by this, but Schmidts and Maks are. : > : >> After two days of no updates, and with visions of modified cameras : >> being lost, this evening, it showed up in Miami! Apparently, though, : >> it's normal for the US Postal Service to send things hundreds of : >> miles out of the way. : > : > You have to love express service. I bought a base for my C11 and : > had it shipped express because I wanted it by the end of the week when : > I was travelling down here to install it. It did not arrive in the "guaranteed" : > delivery time or two days later, for that matter. It arrived sometime : > during the week I was away and because I was not at home to get the : > package, I then had to go to the post office to get it. : > The express mailing rate was more expensive than the part and while : > they guarantee delivery, it is an empty guarantee. They only : > guarantee that I will get it, on what ever time frame they wish, : > despite the huge extra bucks they charge. I got the parcel, so what : > do they care? The one advantage of the postal service is that there : > is not a bondage fee to pay for storing the item at the border while they : delay your shipment. : > Good luck with your package. Since the company that shall not be : > named believes Canada is in the southern hemisphere, maybe it is a : > myth for all of California and your package is in Miami because that : > is about as far south as you can get before shipping it to the nether regions. : > Just what you wanted to hear... : > : > Clear skies! : > MK : > : > The Observatory by the Lake : > http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 14:50:28 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:50:28 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> ... some slightly used technology. If you can use one, you can have it: 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. Let me know if interested ASAP. Colin From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 15:26:00 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Colin, I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. Thanks Ed On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Thu Jul 12 15:47:59 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:47:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <473D218A9A4044EE9AC4FF3E86E8A169@userb51be46d9b> Hi Colin; I would be interested in the 6" dob. May I make an offer on the phone - don't wish to start a bidding war ;o) (905) 383-7875 thanks, Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Haig" To: Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:50 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > ... some slightly used technology. > > If you can use one, you can have it: > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe > something for your kid. > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for > photo editting. > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will > fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > Colin > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > From astronomer at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 16:04:25 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:04:25 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >Colin, > >I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 >questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS >keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the >machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > >Thanks >Ed > > >On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > > > ... some slightly used technology. > > > > If you can use one, you can have it: > > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. > > > > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great for photo editting. > > > > > > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > > > > Let me know if interested ASAP. > > Colin > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 12 17:04:17 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:04:17 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: At 14:50 7/12/2012, you wrote: >3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe something for your kid. I would happily take one of these machines off of your hands, Colin >2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. >Great for photo editting. and one of these too. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:12:53 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:12:53 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be best suited for me... 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to those persons. Thanks Ed PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my experience. On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty sure less than 5 years old. > > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. > > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it didnt need a reload. > > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. > > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> Colin, >> >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. >> >> Thanks >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: >> >> > ... some slightly used technology. >> > >> > If you can use one, you can have it: >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe something for your kid. >> > >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great for photo editting. >> > >> > >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. >> > >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. >> > Colin >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > astronomers mailing list >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:24:49 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:24:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install 7, or go through Vista first. Andy : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert and I'm : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would be : best suited for me... : : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software that : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly like a : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find the OS : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I have to : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts is to : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in place : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much cheaper : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine so, : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be using it for : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching for : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. In the end, : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 would : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather spend : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of your 3 : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give them to : those persons. : : Thanks : Ed : : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. Well, I : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on the Mac : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are much : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my : experience. : : : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, pretty : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines - don't : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 machines. : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the original : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, so it : didnt need a reload. : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of ram to : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 cant run : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely could. : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : >> Colin, : >> : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 questions...1. I'm : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the Operating : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on my : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : >> : >> Thanks : >> Ed : >> : >> : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : >> : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : >> > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or maybe : something for your kid. : >> > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. Great : for photo editting. : >> > : >> > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat up. Will fit : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : >> > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : >> > Colin : >> > : >> > : >> > : >> > _______________________________________________ : >> > astronomers mailing list : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : >> : >> : >> _______________________________________________ : >> astronomers mailing list : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 17:29:43 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:43 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh install > 7, or go through Vista first. > > Andy > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the expert > and I'm > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one would > be > : best suited for me... > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do my > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of software > that > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly > like a > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find > the OS > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > have to > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my thoughts > is to > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in > place > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much > cheaper > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine > so, > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only be > using it for > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been searching > for > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. > In the end, > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > would > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > spend > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of > your 3 > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > them to > : those persons. > : > : Thanks > : Ed > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. > Well, I > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on > the Mac > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they are > much > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in my > : experience. > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, 3000, > pretty > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three machines > - don't > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > machines. > : > > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from the > original > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, > so it > : didnt need a reload. > : > > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of > ram to > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 > cant run > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > could. > : > > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : >> Colin, > : >> > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > questions...1. I'm > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > Operating > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on > my > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : >> > : >> Thanks > : >> Ed > : >> > : >> > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : >> > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : >> > > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > maybe > : something for your kid. > : >> > > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. > Great > : for photo editting. > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat > up. Will fit > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : >> > > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : >> > Colin > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> > : >> > : >> _______________________________________________ > : >> astronomers mailing list > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From andrew at bienhaus.org Thu Jul 12 17:55:50 2012 From: andrew at bienhaus.org (Andrew Bienhaus) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:55:50 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the install. : -----Original Message----- : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from XP to : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. : : Ed : : : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: : : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) : > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh : > install 7, or go through Vista first. : > : > Andy : > : > : -----Original Message----- : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... : > : : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the : > expert and I'm : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one : > would be : > : best suited for me... : > : : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to do : > my : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of : > software that : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs exactly : > like a : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot find : > the OS : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I : > have to : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my : > thoughts is to : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, in : > place : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is much : > cheaper : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit machine : > so, : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only : > be using it for : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. : > : : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been : > searching for : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no avail. : > In the end, : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 : > would : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather : > spend : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. : > : : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one of : > your 3 : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use of : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give : > them to : > : those persons. : > : : > : Thanks : > : Ed : > : : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for imaging. : > Well, I : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of both : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. on : > the Mac : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they : > are much : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in : > my : > : experience. : > : : > : : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, : > 3000, pretty : > : sure less than 5 years old. : > : > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three : > machines : > - don't : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 : > machines. : > : > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from : > the original : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely used, : > so it : > : didnt need a reload. : > : > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig of : > ram to : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the 3000 : > cant run : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely : > could. : > : > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. : > : > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: : > : >> Colin, : > : >> : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 : > questions...1. I'm : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the : > Operating : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP on : > my : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. : > : >> : > : >> Thanks : > : >> Ed : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: : > : >> : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. : > : >> > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win XP. : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or : > maybe : > : something for your kid. : > : >> > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT monitors. : > Great : > : for photo editting. : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit beat : > up. Will fit : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. : > : >> > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. : > : >> > Colin : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ : > : >> > astronomers mailing list : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > : >> : > : >> _______________________________________________ : > : >> astronomers mailing list : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : >> : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > _______________________________________________ : > : > astronomers mailing list : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : : > : : > : _______________________________________________ : > : astronomers mailing list : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : > : > _______________________________________________ : > astronomers mailing list : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca : : : _______________________________________________ : astronomers mailing list : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Thu Jul 12 18:27:37 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:27:37 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> Message-ID: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> I'll take a look around. Thanks again Ed On 2012-07-12, at 5:55 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > Finding someone with Vista, shouldn't be hard... and you don't need to > activate, to upgrade through it, as I recall. Just a valid key for the > install. > > : -----Original Message----- > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : Sent: July-12-12 5:30 PM > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : Andy,Thanks...I did not realize that there was not a direct path from > XP to > : Win 7. Guess I'm out of luck. > : > : Ed > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 5:24 PM, Andrew Bienhaus wrote: > : > : > The mac makes a great PC, good hardware, with known drivers. :-) > : > > : > But, there is no upgrade path directly to 7. You'd have to fresh > : > install 7, or go through Vista first. > : > > : > Andy > : > > : > : -----Original Message----- > : > : From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers- > : > : bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Ed Mizzi > : > : Sent: July-12-12 5:13 PM > : > : To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Need a good home for... > : > : > : > : I don't want you spending a lot of time on this but you're the > : > expert and I'm > : > : hoping that my description below will help you decide which one > : > would be > : > : best suited for me... > : > : > : > : 1. I have been running PC software on my Macbook Pro in order to > do > : > my > : > : imaging. This is accomplished by using a cross-over piece of > : > software that > : > : allows me to load a Windows OS onto my Mac and it then runs > exactly > : > like a > : > : PC laptop. At the present I am running Windows XP but I cannot > find > : > the OS > : > : CDs nor the Key. If I want to install Win7 in its place it means I > : > have to > : > : purchase a "full" Win 7 OS and that's expensive. So one of my > : > thoughts is to > : > : use the XP OS from one of your machines, load it onto my Macbook, > in > : > place > : > : of the original XP OS and then update it to Win 7 (an update is > much > : > cheaper > : > : than the full version, as you know). My Macbook is a 64 bit > machine > : > so, > : > : ideally I'd like to eventually run Win 7 64-bit. > : > : I realize this means that if i take one of your towers I will only > : > be using it for > : > : its OS, but maybe down the road I'll put an OS back on it. > : > : > : > : I realize this may sound somewhat convoluted but I have been > : > searching for > : > : a Win XP or Win 7 OS, with Key, at places like Kijiji but to no > avail. > : > In the end, > : > : My Macbook with XP will still allow me to image, but having Win 7 > : > would > : > : keep me updated to some degree. Yes, I'm cheap but I'd also rather > : > spend > : > : my funds on astronomy stuff rather than a new OS. > : > : > : > : I hope I've described things well enough for you to recommend one > of > : > your 3 > : > : machines. However, if there is someone that would make better use > of > : > : those machines, as they are presently configured, then please give > : > them to > : > : those persons. > : > : > : > : Thanks > : > : Ed > : > : > : > : PS You may wonder why I do not simply use a PC laptop for > imaging. > : > Well, I > : > : love Macs and with a dual platform machine, I have the best of > both > : > : worlds...I can image on the PC side and then use PhotoShop, etc. > on > : > the Mac > : > : side and Macs are better for graphic stuff, as you know. Plus they > : > are much > : > : more stable, generally speaking than Windows machines, at least in > : > my > : > : experience. > : > : > : > : > : > : On 2012-07-12, at 4:04 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : > : > : > They are small mini-towers. Dell Optiplex 320, Dimension 4700, > : > 3000, pretty > : > : sure less than 5 years old. > : > : > > : > : > I have matched up dell OS + Driver CDs with 2 of the three > : > machines > : > - don't > : > : have for the third. The genuine XP license stickers are on all 3 > : > machines. > : > : > > : > : > I did a clean load of 2 of the machines so far, with XP SP3 from > : > the original > : > : media, and applied most updates. The third machine was barely > used, > : > so it > : > : didnt need a reload. > : > : > > : > : > The 320 will run Win7 32bit, and likely would need one more gig > of > : > ram to > : > : run 64bit - the processor is capable I think. Pretty sure the > 3000 > : > cant run > : > : 64bit. Not sure about the 4700, as it has a newer chip, so likely > : > could. > : > : > > : > : > Not sure what your Mac has to do with anything. > : > : > > : > : > At 03:26 PM 2012-07-12, Ed Mizzi wrote: > : > : >> Colin, > : > : >> > : > : >> I would be interested in one of the PCs, but I do have 2 > : > questions...1. I'm > : > : assuming they are desktops? 2. Do you have the MS keys for the > : > Operating > : > : systems? I may wish to upgrade the OS on the machine OR reload XP > on > : > my > : > : Mac (dual Platform) and upgrade it to Win 7. > : > : >> > : > : >> Thanks > : > : >> Ed > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> On 2012-07-12, at 2:50 PM, Colin Haig wrote: > : > : >> > : > : >> > ... some slightly used technology. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > If you can use one, you can have it: > : > : >> > 3 Dell PCs (P4 2.8GHz or better, 1GB RAM, DVD drive etc), Win > XP. > : > : >> > - make an ideal observatory computer or workbench machine, or > : > maybe > : > : something for your kid. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > 2 Viewsonic G90f high resolution 19" .25 dot pitch CRT > monitors. > : > Great > : > : for photo editting. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > For sale - make me an offer - need to make room! > : > : >> > 6" f8 Orion dobsonian telescope. Great optics, tube a bit > beat > : > up. Will fit > : > : in your car, and takes about 15 second to set up. > : > : >> > > : > : >> > Let me know if interested ASAP. > : > : >> > Colin > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > > : > : >> > _______________________________________________ > : > : >> > astronomers mailing list > : > : >> > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > : >> > : > : >> _______________________________________________ > : > : >> astronomers mailing list > : > : >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : >> > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > _______________________________________________ > : > : > astronomers mailing list > : > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : > : astronomers mailing list > : > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > > : > _______________________________________________ > : > astronomers mailing list > : > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > : > : > : _______________________________________________ > : astronomers mailing list > : astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > : http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 18:49:49 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Thu Jul 12 20:06:29 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:06:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4lq0f@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hi, Colin... You're right. It's priced to sell! The body alone goes for about $300, and I haven't used the lens in years. Somebody here is going to get a very good deal. I used the battery grip until I got the battery eliminator. Now I can run the camera off 120V and the grip is not needed. I haven't tested the grip to see if it will work with my newly modified T1i. If it does, and the camera doesn't sell here, then maybe I'll keep the grip and use it for concerts and non-Astro photography. Roger -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca on behalf of Colin Haig Sent: Thu 12/07/2012 7:21 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale That's a STEAL - way underpriced. At 06:49 PM 2012-07-12, you wrote: >I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: >Two batteries and a charger. >USB cable >Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). > >I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that >fits in it, too. > >The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. > >This camera has NOT been modified. > >$300. > >Roger >Milton, ON > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dennis Ryan 905-815-1410 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:49:49 -0400 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Fri Jul 13 17:01:29 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 17:01:29 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Update Re: Need a good home for... In-Reply-To: <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a4phgg@fipsb01.cogeco.net> The Scope sold. One PC and Monitor have a new home. I have: 2 P4 PCs and 1 19" flat screen CRT monitor left. No charge/Make a donation ;-) Additional items now available (make an offer): WRT610N Linksys WiFi "N" router Soundblaster XFI - new, never used Dell 1280x1024 LCD flat panel display Starlight Xpress HX516 CCD Camera - asking $450 or a reasonable offer. 2 B&W bullet-style security cameras 0.1Lux. SWR & Power meter I may have other stuff coming up for grabs shortly as I prioritize. If you are looking for something astronomy, computer, or camera stuff, let me know. From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 14:33:09 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:33:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Canon XSi for sale In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Sold. -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:50 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Canon XSi for sale I'm selling my Canon XSi. Included are: Two batteries and a charger. USB cable Canon 28mm-105mm lens (not the kit lens). I'll also toss in a dual battery grip and the 6 AA battery clip that fits in it, too. The XSi is an excellent camera that takes great astrophotos. This camera has NOT been modified. $300. Roger Milton, ON From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 14 21:46:05 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:46:05 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net><64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net><659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca><64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb><75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca><87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb><800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger From supergiant2003 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 15 00:08:36 2012 From: supergiant2003 at hotmail.com (supergiant2003 at hotmail.com) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:08:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Hey gang... Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post when processed Gary Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers -----Original message----- From: Roger Hill To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 21:46:05 EDT Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 02:52:40 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:52:40 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: >Hey gang... >Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post >when processed >Gary -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From glcolwell at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 07:47:55 2012 From: glcolwell at cogeco.ca (Gary Colwell) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 07:47:55 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> References: <00d101cd5ec4$d0bcaf80$72360e80$@net> <64e3aa$a4km0u@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <659881D4-89F9-4254-91D3-6B3E4E2D97D8@cogeco.ca> <64e3aa$a4l1ua@fipsb01.cogeco.net> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4C9@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <75C3C23C-471A-4CFF-AACE-7583961B7E6C@cogeco.ca> <87AE0EFFC98AB54DAB28ADD1D7DEAD2221C4CB@gaea.aquilonia.orb> <800AEC0C-E67D-4899-BDEE-E1E87BBB8A20@cogeco.ca> <0b864d$a51a2k@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <5002ADEB.30008@cogeco.ca> forks of the credit was partially cloudy.... > Colin Haig > July-15-12 2:52 AM > How was that possible? Its been totally overcast in sw ontario for hours? > > At 12:08 AM 2012-07-15, you wrote: > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > supergiant2003 at hotmail.com > July-15-12 12:08 AM > Hey gang... > Got a few pics of some auroral activiry from the forks...will post > when processed > Gary > > Sent from my Motorola device on the Rogers Wireless Network > > Envoyé depuis mon téléphone Motorola sur le réseau sans fil Rogers > > > -----Original message----- > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > Roger Hill > July-14-12 9:46 PM > Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. > > http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: > > Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly > active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, > Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder > Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des > Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. > > > Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth > took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach > Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. > > Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the > 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the > disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of > states. > > Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible > Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. > > > > If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 > or higher. Getting out of town will also help. > > > Roger > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: compose-unknown-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 770 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: postbox-contact.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1080 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bartman4 at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 15 11:00:46 2012 From: bartman4 at sympatico.ca (David A Barton) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 11:00:46 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Roger for letting us know. Nancy and Dana -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill Sent: July-14-12 9:46 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Aurora Alert... Keep your eyes open for Aurora tonight and tomorrow night. http://www.gi.alaska.edu/AuroraForecast states: Forecast: Auroral activity will be high. Weather permitting, highly active auroral displays will be visible overhead from Inuvik, Yellowknife, Rankin and Igaluit to Juneau, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Thunder Bay and Sept-Iles, and visible low on the horizon from Seattle, Des Moines, Chicago, Cleveland, Boston, and Halifax. Forecaster Comments: A significant event located on the Sun facing Earth took place on July 12. The effects of this event will begin to reach Earth early on the 14th of July GMT. Observers in North America should watch for aurora on the nights of the 14th and 15th local time. Depending on the configuration of the disturbance, auroras may be visible as far south as the middle tier of states. Activity may remain high also on the 16th. Auroras should be visible Southern New Zealand, Tasmania, and of course, Antarctica. If you want to take pictures, try exposures of 5 to 30 seconds, ISO 800 or higher. Getting out of town will also help. Roger _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 13:36:35 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:36:35 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Message-ID: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). -David MacMillan Milton -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Lowville Park Aerial View.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 238255 bytes Desc: not available URL: From emizzi at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 17:21:14 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:21:14 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> Message-ID: <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> David, Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! Ed On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > > My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > > I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > > Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). > > -David MacMillan > Milton > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 17:26:59 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:26:59 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Sun Jul 15 19:14:33 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 19:14:33 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> Message-ID: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:16:10 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:16:10 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. Jeff Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > >> David, >> >> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >> >> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >> >> Ed >> >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >> >>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>> >>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>> >>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>> >>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>> >>> -David MacMillan >>> Milton >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From emizzi at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 21:19:09 2012 From: emizzi at cogeco.ca (Ed Mizzi) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:19:09 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: Hey Jeff, Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. Ed On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials > > I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. > > Jeff > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: > >> Are you offering to buy the permits? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >> >> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >> >>> David, >>> >>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>> >>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>> >>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>> >>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>> >>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>> >>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>> >>>> -David MacMillan >>>> Milton >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From agman102 at yahoo.ca Sun Jul 15 21:20:52 2012 From: agman102 at yahoo.ca (Jeff Lillycrop) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:20:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> <41FF448A-FC3B-4540-B689-6427C1063232@yahoo.ca> Message-ID: <452916BC-0AE5-4291-BD5B-87E5D7A31690@yahoo.ca> Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 21:19, Ed Mizzi wrote: > Hey Jeff, > > Are we to assume that you're offering your place as one of our venues??!! Very generous of you...but I jest. > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 9:16 PM, Jeff Lillycrop wrote: > >> No, just pointing out the ridicules and unnecessary requirements forced upon anybody trying to do anything by a group of self important redundant city officials >> >> I am very lucky, i live out in the country, i just have to step out into the backyard to observe, i invite family and friends over to view any interesting events that maybe happening, No permit required. >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On 2012-07-15, at 19:14, "Gary Bennett" wrote: >> >>> Are you offering to buy the permits? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop >>> Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM >>> To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? >>> >>> Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: >>> >>>> David, >>>> >>>> Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. >>>> >>>> I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! >>>> >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: >>>> >>>>> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >>>>> >>>>> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >>>>> >>>>> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >>>>> >>>>> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >>>>> >>>>> -David MacMillan >>>>> Milton >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> astronomers mailing list >>>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> astronomers mailing list >>>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> astronomers mailing list >>> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >>> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From starchemist at cogeco.ca Sun Jul 15 22:44:00 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:44:00 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. a.. have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere b.. have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thirdalchemist at gmail.com Sun Jul 15 22:49:23 2012 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com (David Surette) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:49:23 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC> <8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca> <019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. > > - have one person (like me) try and establish a “beach-head” (for an > informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond > Hill, and it went nowhere > - have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, > perhaps sweetening the deal with “all comers are welcome” (i.e. “outreach”) > – sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) > > I’m not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and “dirty our ticket”, and > so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) > approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should > line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use > a site that would be convenient to many in our club. > > -David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Bennett > Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Are you offering to buy the permits? > > -----Original Message----- > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto: > astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop > Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? > > Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything > calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be > prevented if permits were issued. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > > > David, > > > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for > us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do > Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of > Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and > would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit > org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might > be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take > on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is > because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the > headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look > through the telescope First"??!!! > > > > Ed > > > > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > > > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a > special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? > >> > >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 – 13 years, and we checked it > out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely > surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a > covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. > >> > >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is > allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left > on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. > >> > >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I’ll > call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after > 11pm). > >> > >> -David MacMillan > >> Milton > >> View.jpg>_______________________________________________ > >> astronomers mailing list > >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > astronomers mailing list > > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sun Jul 15 23:54:44 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 23:54:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? In-Reply-To: References: <756DC6DC516A4A239891F426389A2CDE@MacMillanPC><8508E409-780B-4273-B063-E4146B0B8859@cogeco.ca><019701cd62df$98bb4050$ca31c0f0$@net> Message-ID: In 2009, for the International Year of Astronomy, and for a couple of years afterwards, I ran a series of lectures/workshops at Discovery Landing in Spencer Smith Park for the City of Burlington. The Centre did not charge the City of Burlington for them. In exchange, however, we got the permits to hold Sidewalk Astronomy events at Spencer Smith Park. We also got a year's worth of meetings at Discovery Landing, too, thanks to Andy Blanchard. I think I ran 5 sets of 4 workshops over a three year span, with a lot of assistance from some great people in the Centre. When the City of Burlington decided that they were not going to offer the workshops anymore, they wanted to charge us for the permits. If I remember correctly, that would have been $150, and we still had to be done by 11pm. The Board tried to make Burlington see reason, but Spencers Restaurant next door took over managing Discovery Landing and no longer saw education as part of their mandate. Neither did Parks and Rec. So we stopped going. We're still looking for a place as good as Spencer Smith Park. I know Lowville fairly well...as a kid I used to try to dam the river. The problem with the place is that while it is fairly dark, the southern horizon is not good. Basically, you're sat in a valley carved through the escarpment. The ideal Sidewalk Astronomy place is a site where there is a lot of walk-by traffic, good horizons (we're only going to look at bright stuff like the Moon and planets, so dark skies don't matter), and adequate parking. Hutches, down by the Lake, would be a good place, for instance. There's a couple of RGB properties that could be good. I hope this helps, Roger From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of David Surette Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:49 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? You're not letting go are you... Good luck! The CofB can be a tough nut to crack on most days. Dave On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:44 PM, David MacMillan wrote: At this point, I'm not sure what the best tactics would be. * have one person (like me) try and establish a "beach-head" (for an informal group of amateur astronomers) ?? - I tried this once with Richmond Hill, and it went nowhere * have our directors make a presentation to City of Burlington, perhaps sweetening the deal with "all comers are welcome" (i.e. "outreach") - sounds like this will go nowhere too (c.f. Spencer Smith Park) I'm not inclined to go off like a loose-cannon and "dirty our ticket", and so propose our directors discussing first before anyone (myself included) approaches City of Burlington. If this is a good viewing site, we should line our ducks up first in order to maximize our chances of getting to use a site that would be convenient to many in our club. -David -----Original Message----- From: Gary Bennett Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 7:14 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Are you offering to buy the permits? -----Original Message----- From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Jeff Lillycrop Sent: July-15-12 5:27 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Cc: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Viewing at Lowville Park ?? Well if the crowd gets unruly, you just pull out the permit and everything calms down. Its a little known fact, that almost all riots could be prevented if permits were issued. Sent from my iPad On 2012-07-15, at 17:21, Ed Mizzi wrote: > David, > > Looks like a potential site and it's great that you're watching out for us. I do not know all of the details, but the main reason we do not do Sidewalk Astronomy at Spencer Smith Park is that, suddenly, the City of Burlington decided that we had to have a permit. They are expensive and would be required each time we used the park. Our club is a not-for-profit org. and we cannot afford costs like that. I'm guessing that Lowville might be the same. Anyone from the Board reading this may correct me on my take on this issue, in case I have the facts incorrect. > > I find it rather amusing that one of the main reasons for a permit is because of drawing a crowd that may get unruly...I can just see the headlines...Amateur Astronomers Involved in riot over who got to look through the telescope First"??!!! > > Ed > > > On 2012-07-15, at 1:36 PM, David MacMillan wrote: > >> Has anyone in the club inquired with City of Burlington about getting a special permit to use the park at Lowville for viewing / AP ? >> >> My wife and I had not been there for 12 - 13 years, and we checked it out this morning. There are a two open fields that are completely surrounded by trees that might make excellent sites. Each field has a covered in area should it start to rain. See attachment for aerial view. >> >> I see a couple of hurdles. The first and obvious one is that no-one is allowed in the park after 11pm. The second one may be that lights are left on atop the service buildings on the edge of the fields. >> >> Unless someone already knows that this idea is a big non-starter, I'll call C of B to see if a permit may be obtained (to be in the park after 11pm). >> >> -David MacMillan >> Milton >> _______________________________________________ >> astronomers mailing list >> astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >> http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not sure if anyone down in > Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. > Cheers > Colin > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/**mailman/listinfo/astronomers_**hamiltonrasc.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 10:31:40 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 14:31:40 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, Message-ID: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. Scott Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! Dave On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig wrote: Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. Cheers Colin _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From astronomer at cogeco.ca Mon Jul 16 11:07:06 2012 From: astronomer at cogeco.ca (Colin Haig) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: References: <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net> Message-ID: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: > Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was > clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a > hint of aurora. > >Scott > > > > > >---------- >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 >From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com >To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... > >Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! > >Dave > >On M on, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig ><astronomer at cogeco.ca> wrote: >Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone >down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, >faint green. >Cheers >Colin > > > >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca > > > >_______________________________________________ astronomers mailing >list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca >_______________________________________________ >astronomers mailing list >astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca >http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrie_62 at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 16 14:21:54 2012 From: barrie_62 at sympatico.ca (scott barrie) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:21:54 +0000 Subject: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... In-Reply-To: <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> References: , , <0b864d$a6atd3@fipsb03.cogeco.net>, , , <64e3aa$a71le4@fipsb01.cogeco.net> Message-ID: Hey Colin, I suspect I was too early. Found a pretty good spot a mile or two east of the Guelph Line about halfway between 401 and Highway 7. No house lights and not too much skyglow. Horizon could have been better. Would love to see your pic. sb Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:07:06 -0400 To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca From: astronomer at cogeco.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... It was really had to spot - only to the north, and very very low to the horizon. Camera caught it - no color visible to the eye, due to sky glow, light pollution etc. I'll try to sort through photos and post one somewhere. C At 10:31 AM 2012-07-16, you wrote: Drove up north of Milton around 11:00-11:30 last night. Sky was clear - woulda been a good night for observing - but didn't see a hint of aurora. Scott Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:25:09 -0400 From: thirdalchemist at gmail.com To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Active - was Re: Aurora Alert... Nope, nada in Binbrook!!! Dave On M on, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Colin Haig wrote: Aurora is just barely visible here near Milton. Not sure if anyone down in Hamilton can see it - pretty much down low near the horizon, faint green. 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URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Thu Jul 26 22:50:49 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:50:49 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". See you soon Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031 ablanchard at cogeco.ca ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Announce mailing list Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Fri Jul 27 18:08:18 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:08:18 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hi Andy > > I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From joe at pipitone.ca Fri Jul 27 21:08:34 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:08:34 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: <3EA3ABF56FD24C7DADCF7B2BD40E0075@BrendaPC> I have no problem if someone else wants to do it. I thought this would be how I could best help at this time. I would be glad to pull out if others are interested. I am sure more experienced members would have more to offer in recommending Astro books. I could offer a newbie version for new members. Maybe a co reviewer by an experienced member and a new member would be a novelty. But, If they want to split up the work I would be glad to do the grunt work it that would help. I not really interested in the other ones as I am trying to get as far away from my former work life as possible and I would find it a return to work and stress , something which I have been away now for a number of years and loving stress free retirement.leaving me to follow my interests. Maybe something else will come up in the future that I can help the club out. It is great that people want to volunteer. Thanks See you at Starfest. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Blanchard To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update Ho Joe, I hope you are enjoying your summer. Seems that this position is very popular, with others also volunteering. Frankly I would also take it on if I was not the President this year. Likely we will have to have a draw to see who the lucky winner is? If its not your name we pull out of the hat would you accept one of the other positions? Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-26, at 10:51 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: Hi Andy I would be glad to help out as the Librarian in some capacity. I love books and reading my only problem is that I don't know much about Astronomy as some of the other members most likely do but I could write reviews and organize the library and loan out books Let me know if I can help. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Blanchard To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: Librarian This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. Membership Director This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club Banquet Chairperson This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. 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URL: From starchemist at cogeco.ca Fri Jul 27 22:24:19 2012 From: starchemist at cogeco.ca (David MacMillan) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:24:19 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Stellarvue MG2 Mount Message-ID: <5D9792B03E1D454FA07057DC251AC8AD@MacMillanPC> Does anyone in the club have / use (or know someone who does) a Stellarvue MG2 mount? http://www.stellarvue.com/mg2.html Seems Stellarvue suspended sales of these mounts due to quality issues. However, they are once again taking orders, with deliveries anticipated to resume later this year. The advantage this mount has over my current M2 mount is that it is geared and has slo-mo controls + it can handle two OTA’s. I’ve picked up an inexpensive inclinometer (just need to figure best way to mount – something better than duct-tape) and would plan to strap a 360 degree circle around the mount..........then coupled with Stellarium on my laptop and it’s alt-az coordinates, I’d have a so-so object locater.......hopefully good enough for a wide-field eyepiece (e.g. Pan35 mm). Any feedback anyone has on the SV MG2 mount would be appreciated. -David MacMillan Milton, ON -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 11:35:52 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:35:52 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: A couple of things: 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Roger Sent from my iPhone. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.kaye at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 28 13:10:11 2012 From: mark.kaye at sympatico.ca (Mark Kaye) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 13:10:11 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: At 11:35 7/28/2012, you wrote: >Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. Sorry about that Roger, but the first Thursday of the month is the sixth and Labour Day is the third. Clear skies! MK The Observatory by the Lake http://www3.sympatico.ca/mark.kaye/index.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Roger.Hill at hiteach.net Sat Jul 28 15:09:24 2012 From: Roger.Hill at hiteach.net (Roger Hill) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:09:24 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] [ SpecialAnnouncement] Board Update In-Reply-To: References: <8BDB21AE-B2C4-47E7-A42E-8DA7C6D39DA7@me.com> Message-ID: Just trying to point out that some people have missed a meeting because they think of RASC as a non-summer activity, but think of Labour Day as the end of summer. It's been a concern enough that there have been times when the meeting date was changed to the Thursday after Labour Day. Sent from my iPhone. On 2012-07-28, at 1:17 PM, "Andrew Blanchard" wrote: > Thanks Roger, as always you are a wealth of club information and as a Gold Star recipient (past president) you are a great asset to our club. > > Roger are you suggesting that the 1st meeting cannot be held before Labour Day or are you asking a question? Also thanks for the library info, we are excited about the prospects of resurrecting this valuable resource. > > In response to my request for volunteers, I am also pleased to announce that Joe Pipitone has volunteered to be our new librarian. The membership Chairperson will be Gary Bennett who will be handing over his Web Master duties to Shawn Preston. Thanks for coming to the table and helping out gentlemen. Your time and efforts will be greatly appreciated by every member of the club, and I encourage our members to congratulate these fine individuals the next time you see them. > > As for the board members and being required to be a member for one year, we had been aware of this rule and the loop hole. > > Lastly we finally have our own calendar on our website that is being beta tested this week. Everyone will be receiving an email shortly from me with instructions that will allow you to use your iPhone and get instant updates and changes to your calendar through ical technology. We will also be able to update android and desktop calendars through Google calendars as well. I hope to be able to share the links later this week or next week. > > As always we are working to make your club experience just that much more enjoyable > > Andy Blanchard > > From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of Roger Hill > Sent: July-28-12 11:36 AM > To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton [ Special Announcement] Board Update > > A couple of things: > > 1) Librarian is not a new position. It disappeared when the library had to be destroyed because of the mold problem a few years ago. > > 2) The By-Laws require all Board members to have been members of the Centre for at least a year before joining the Board. There are some "loopholes" though, and the Board can appoint someone. > > 3) would it be possible to get notification of Board meetings like the ones that are sent out about Public nights, astrophotography evenings and the like? > > Finally, the first Thursday of September is BEFORE Labour Day this year. > > > Roger > > Sent from my iPhone. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andrew Blanchard > To: announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:48 PM > Subject: [RASC Hamilton Special Announcement] Board Update > > Hello fellow members, I hope you are enjoying the summer and the very clear sky's we have had in July. I recently got back from a motorcycle trip to the west coast, and aside from a sore bottom it was a visual and olfactory overloading experience. This email is an update to let you know the board has been meeting and planning all summer. At the most recent Board meeting we discussed the following new and old positions that we would likes to add back on the board: > > Librarian > > This position is a new position, the librarian would purchase ten astronomy or science books over the year. Read a book a month and then provide a report to the members at the regular monthly meeting and to Orbit on the books content. Set the book up in our bookcase and loan it out to members who would also like to read the book. Not a big job, but one that should be a lot of fun and enjoyment not to mention educational for the librarian. > > Membership Director > > This position as the name implies would be the person responsible for keeping membership lists, renewals and new member tutoring and mentoring. This also is a very rewarding position and would best suited to a person who likes to meet and involve people in our club > > Banquet Chairperson > > This job is mostly on automatic pilot. The chairperson would locate a venue, sell the tickets and book the speaker. Our template last year can be copied and improved upon. > > If one of these positions sound like it might be a interesting 1st step to becoming more involved, then drop me an email or call me so we can discuss it further. I encourage everyone to strongly consider getting involved. Clubs like ours don't just happen, its members stepping up and chipping in. Be a participant and discover the real fun begins the moment you get involved. > > Our 1st meeting of the fall season dare I save is only several weeks away, being the 1st Thursday of September. Traditionally the 1st meeting is a member night, when members display photos of star party's, astronomical objects, or projects and purchases that they have made. Basically a old fashion "show and tell". > > See you soon > > > > Andy Blanchard > 905-465-2031 > ablanchard at cogeco.ca > > > > _______________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Announce mailing list > Announce at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/announce_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j_blane1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 29 19:22:55 2012 From: j_blane1 at yahoo.com (J Blane) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: RASC Hamilton Observatory Message-ID: <1343604175.82524.YahooMailNeo@web120301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone  I'm heading up to the observatory, till about 12:00, anybody interested. Jason Blane -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From egoldingstudio at shaw.ca Mon Jul 30 22:34:22 2012 From: egoldingstudio at shaw.ca (Eric Golding Studio) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:34:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Congratulations Joseph, you now have a great mount! I use an old heavy-duty bowling ball bag to carry my mount. It has handles and is a good fit - although a bit tricky for one person to get it in there! Sorry, no suggestions about the battery. Someone else will have an idea though, I'm sure. Clear skies! Eric Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: joe at pipitone.ca To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:23 PM Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From atacamandy at hotmail.ca Mon Jul 30 23:08:44 2012 From: atacamandy at hotmail.ca (Andy Blanchard) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 23:08:44 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: Hi Joe, JMI makes cases for everything but Gary Bennett is your guy on this, he has his in a hard plastic case. As for the battery I have always tucked it behind a seat so it won't take off in a emergency braking situation.. Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B On 2012-07-30, at 10:24 PM, joe at pipitone.ca wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? > > Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. > > Looking forward to your suggestions. > > Joseph Pipitone > _______________________________________________ > astronomers mailing list > astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca > http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ astronomers mailing list astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca http://hamiltonrasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/astronomers_hamiltonrasc.ca From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:51:54 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:51:54 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gary at bendun.net Tue Jul 31 06:56:22 2012 From: gary at bendun.net (Gary Bennett) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 06:56:22 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> Message-ID: <00d801cd6f0b$2022d710$60688530$@net> Forgot the battery box: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/5/SportsRec/Marine/BoatPartsAccessorie s/PRD~0790312P/Attwood+Series+Vented+Battery+Box.jsp?locale=en From: Gary Bennett [mailto:gary at bendun.net] Sent: July-31-12 6:52 AM To: 'astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca' Subject: RE: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. Joseph Pipitone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joe at pipitone.ca Tue Jul 31 09:52:36 2012 From: joe at pipitone.ca (joe at pipitone.ca) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:52:36 -0400 Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery In-Reply-To: <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> References: <8D35102446C447B7A018A5F32290CF9A@BrendaPC> <00d301cd6f0a$801442e0$803cc8a0$@net> Message-ID: <87B47E4A0720457599CD4EC4ABE47161@BrendaPC> Great! I just ordered it. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Bennett To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:51 AM Subject: Re: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Here is what I use: http://www.aptika.com/ca/products/detail.asp?p=Nanuk-Case-945 It is big enough for the mount, hand controller and other wires. There is an option ($88.00) for a foam liner. But I bought a 4 X 8 sheet of 2" foam and spray glue and did it myself. That sheet cost $ 80.00 but I had lots left over for other projects. Gary Bennett From: astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca [mailto:astronomers-bounces at hamiltonrasc.ca] On Behalf Of joe at pipitone.ca Sent: July-30-12 10:24 PM To: astronomers at hamiltonrasc.ca Subject: RASC Hamilton Case for EQ6 mount and Battery Hello everyone, I bought the above mount and would like to find an inexpensive way to protect it in a case. It comes in a box with Styrofoam. It is difficult to move around. Any suggestions on a good case for it preferably something with wheels? Also, is there a way to carry and protect the marine battery to power the telescope. It is hard to believe that that there isn't something to house the battery as well other than having it bounce around in the car. Looking forward to your suggestions. 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Andy Blanchard 905-465-2031H 905-847-7777B Begin forwarded message: > From: John Kulczycki > Date: 31 July, 2012 8:29:55 PM EDT > To: ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca, RASCals Discussion List > Subject: [London RASC] August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges > Reply-To: London RASC Discussion > > For your observing enjoyment, here are the August Pocket Sky Atlas Challenges: > http://suite101.com/article/pocket-sky-atlas-challenges-for-august-a410441 > > > John Kulczycki > _______________________________________________ > ldnrasc mailing list > ldnrasc at lists.rasc.ca > http://www.rasc.ca/mailman/listinfo/ldnrasc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: